Final Thoughts
Melissa: I thought Avengers 2 was okay. I was entertained in some parts, but for whatever reason this series just doesn’t spark with me…
Evan: I’m curious if the superhero fatigue will continue to get worse with the majority, this past weekend seemed to not hit their expectations at the Box Office and by the time Infinity War II rolls around I’m gonna be like “YEA FIGHTING THANOS IN SPACE WITH DOCTOR STRANGE AND ADAM WARLOCK,” and people will be like “pfft what?”
Jon: No, but that’s because there was a ton of other national things going on. Draft Day, that one PPV fight.
Evan: Really? people still watch the Kentucky Derby?
Jon: Not to mention that they released the film a week early overseas. They pirate stuff over there pretty fast.
Kev: I’ll give my thoughts.
Evan: Go for it!
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Kev: 5/10.
Evan: Would you like to elaborate on that arbitrary number?
Kev: It’s fun, and worth the early matinee, but I wouldn’t go all out to see it. I initially did cause I felt the hype, but in the end, while it was a fun watch, nothing really stood out to me but the glorified comic book violence.
Evan: Okay I can follow that thought. Makes sense.
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Kev: I blame the exclusion of the rap music
Evan: That one i can’t. you lost me
Kev: Rap music makes every thing better.
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Jon: What about child murder?
Evan: So Child 44 needed rap music to be better?
Kev: Whoa, whoa. Why do we have to take it that far.
Kev: I feel cornered
Evan: Okay so, with days to think about it now and talking about it, it had no way of living up to the hype. It didn’t have the chance of redoing what Avengers accomplished because that movie was A) unique for its time, and B ) was a gamble. That movie felt smaller, and it had more to prove. This had all the great pieces to make an equally good follow up, and it’s still a good movie. Like I said, it’s a miracle it works in 11 heroes, a big James Spader villain and set up for the next couple movies. It without a doubt trips some, and I’m sad to say, could have done without a couple of the action scenes and with some more moments with the characters. So like sure 7.5 out of 10. An 8 if I don’t think too hard.
Kev: Has anyone seen a film they’ve deemed better then sex?
Evan: Depends on the sex.
Kev: Drunk sex.
Evan: I feel like we’re just spit-balling here, it’s getting a little Dianne Sawyer. Jon, wanna just give the final bow here?
Jon: The first film was so successful because nothing like it had ever even been attempted in the live action avenue. The build up to the first one was perfect. They tried the same exact formula with the sequel, except the build up to it was pretty lackluster (With films like Thor 2 and Iron Man 3). It had the same energy, but to a much lessened effect. It wasn’t as impactful as the first one, and the CGI heavy enemies wore you out, so when it was time for you to feel something (like the death of Quicksilver), you were already kind of numb. It was still fun, and because I’m a huge Marvel fan I still enjoyed it, and the new characters that were introduced. I give it a solid 6/10.
Evan: I almost feel like it could feel better as a home watch instead of the theater. Kind of hoping for a directors cut with hopes that it would feel more complete like LOTR does in a way.
Kev: I heard it’s getting an extended cut.
Jon: I think a directors cut would make it worse.
Evan: Think so?
Jon: It would probably gives us more underdeveloped side stories and plots.
Evan: Yeah, maybe so. I had thought the opposite in giving more body to the ones that were there. I guess only Joss will know.
Jon: Well, they would naturally include the Loki story. Which would probably be more side plots and foreshadowing that we don’t really need.
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Jon: Also, I’m not sure I’m looking forward to Captain America: Civil War. I don’t think they can do the story line justice.
Evan: They would need to drastically change it for sure, its just too big for one movie.
Jon: And it hasn’t been properly set up at all
Evan: they’ll definitely take liberties with it like they did with the Ultron origin here.
Jon: They’re all too worried about Thanos.
Evan: I know, I hoped they would get some blood boiling between Steve and Tony by the end of this, and I saw today Chris Evans said that Civil War will also be setting up more for Infinity War.
Jon: Ugh. That’s disappointing news. Maybe we’ve reached the peak of these kinds of film.
Evan: Other than the Winter Soldier its pretty arguable the first of each individual series is the best one of them. And we’re getting introduced to Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and a new Spidey in phase 3 so we’ll see. Maybe it has, maybe it hasn’t.
Jon: The Comic Book Film Golden Age had to end sometime. Maybe it just needed new blood.
Evan: Lets see what happens with Ant-Man first before we call it haha
Jon: Both characters, and writers (not that I didn’t love Whedon).
Evan: Yeaah for sure
Jon: I keep forgetting Ant-Man is coming out in a few months.
Evan: Hope the Russo brothers are up to the challenge
Jon: They won’t have a choice. And now to end the conversation with our customary salute.
Evan: At this point Marvel probably has a directing style guide made up for their movies anyway.
Jon: ”HAIL HYDRA!”
Evan: Yeah, yeah. Hail Hydra. Get hit by car. Yada yada.
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