Views on the Democrats, Republicans and Green Party
JE: Well, we obviously live in a fundamentally flawed, forced two-party system, and your documentary talks a little about that. What do you think needs to change or happen to get people to vote for a candidate that represents their true self-interests?
RB: We need a true third-party and right now we don’t have it. None of the parties — there just isn’t one. Until we get a third-party, you know, there’s not a lot we can do. We need a party that truly represents us and we just don’t have one. The whole way the elections work make sure that won’t happen. So we’re going to need a lot of people to work to make that happen. Unfortunately, as I found out when I was running, is that people don’t want to do anything to help better their lives or their circumstances unless they’re getting paid. In America, that’s how out of touch people are.
JE: A sort of pay to play mentality.
RB: I would say to them, “You don’t get paid for revolution, it’s not a job.” They would say, “We’ll help you run and get on the ballot, but you’ll have to pay us.” Well, no I don’t actually. Don’t turn around and say you want to overturn Citizen’s United to get the money out of politics when you yourself won’t do anything to help anybody unless you’re getting paid.
JE: Do you think the Green Party is that ideal third-party needed to change the system? Or does the party not exist yet?
RB: No! The green party is like every other party that is just trying to get matching funds. They will say whatever the people who contribute to them want them to say. So no, I do not consider them at this time to be a real party. Just like I don’t consider the Democrats or the Republicans to be real parties either. I do think that getting in there and addressing people who really do care and who really are intelligent, many of whom are in the Green Party, is a good first step. In the United States we haven’t even taken a first step. We haven’t even put our foot on the path yet, towards a democratic election. For them, I wanted to be useful in serving the idea of democratic elections in the United States. I also wanted to shine a light on our whole election system so that people would wake up and see that democracy only works when people work it. They just don’t get that here. They just don’t get it and it’s very sad and dangerous. So I thought somebody’s got to do it so I guess it’ll just be me. I seem to see deeply into things and that excites me to see deeply into things and explain them to people. I really think Americans need to know what’s really being done to them and what they’ve done in their name, but they are so mind controlled that it’s very difficult waking them up and I sometimes feel they can’t be waken up. I think that’s kind of true.
JE: Well that’s a dangerous thought too.
RB: Well, I’m up and I’m not going to stop trying because I do have to look myself in the mirror and that’s the thing that matters most to me, that I am able to do that.
